Excellent advanced or rapidly progressing intermediate ski, they are fractionally more forgiving than the 14, but only when really pushed. Great for those with a few weeks skiing under their boots and eager to get out and cover some miles, less thinking about "kit" more just doing it! Volkl's Supersport Gamma is an equal longer turning choice, or the Crossmax 8 from Salomon is a little easier and more forgiving for intermediates.